Budget Gaming Pc (1 Viewer)

[|Fever| IceBear]

Some of you might be suprised at the prices I paid for these parts. All parts were purchased from a reddit group called hardwareswap.
The parts and price paid are as follows
I7 4770k - $195
Asus z87 pro - $60
16 gb ram - $40
1tb hdd - $30
Evga 500w - $30
Parts I already have and what I paid
Case - free
256gb ssd - $60 new
Gtx 760 2gb - $70 used
So in total ive spent $485 on a pc that if purchased new would cost around $700+
Feel free to share thoughts and questions

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[|Fever| Idolator]

That's not really a low budget gaming PC, more like a Low end low budget gaming PC.

That processor is seriously old, for almost the same price you could have bought a Ryzen 3 or Ryzen 5 1600 which is a 6 core 3.4Ghz processor with 16mb cache and open to overclocking. Add $30 and you could buy a Ryzen motherboard, like the MSI AMD Ryzen AM4 B350 Gaming Plus ATX Motherboard.

I would not buy a power supply that is not rated at least 80 plus gold, and a power supply is something that I would be hesitant to buy 2nd hand. A HDD, and a SSD, is also something I would hesitate to buy 2nd hand, as there is a limit to the amount of reads and writes that, both, a HDD and a SDD have.

With your current build I deduce you would struggle playing games (that were released after 2014) at 1080p in medium-high settings.

I would watch some of the builds from PaulsHardware youtube channel. Even with all NEW parts he can do really cheap builds.
Here is a build for $525 using the new Ryzen 3 CPUs and a GTX 1050Ti: How To Build a $525 GAMING PC with Ryzen 3! - YouTube

That build alone is miles better for only $40 bucks more.

 

[|Fever| IceBear]

Haha you should do your research.

 

[|Fever| IceBear]

That's not really a low budget gaming PC, more like a Low end low budget gaming PC.

That processor is seriously old, for almost the same price you could have bought a Ryzen 3 or Ryzen 5 1600 which is a 6 core 3.4Ghz processor with 16mb cache and open to overclocking. Add $30 and you could buy a Ryzen motherboard, like the MSI AMD Ryzen AM4 B350 Gaming Plus ATX Motherboard.

I would not buy a power supply that is not rated at least 80 plus gold, and a power supply is something that I would be hesitant to buy 2nd hand. A HDD, and a SSD, is also something I would hesitate to buy 2nd hand, as there is a limit to the amount of reads and writes that, both, a HDD and a SDD have.

With your current build I deduce you would struggle playing games (that were released after 2014) at 1080p in medium-high settings.

I would watch some of the builds from PaulsHardware youtube channel. Even with all NEW parts he can do really cheap builds.
Here is a build for $525 using the new Ryzen 3 CPUs and a GTX 1050Ti: How To Build a $525 GAMING PC with Ryzen 3! - YouTube

That build alone is miles better for only $40 bucks more.

The i7 4770k is slightly better than the ryzen 5 1600x and close to the i5 7600k. And with a fx 6300 8gb of ram and the gtx 760 all bought second hand I was able to play AAA titles such as battlefield 1 1080p 60fps and even pubg at a steady 50-70. The ryzen 3 is slightly better than the pentium g4560 which is a $80 chip from intel and also ryzen 3 doesnt have smt like ryzen 5 and ryzen 3 isnt even comparable to any i7. The i7 4770k and 4790k are still one of the top cpus in 2017. Which is why these cpus still go for $200. The only bottleneck is the gtx 760 which I plan to upgrade to a 1060 or 1070 later this year. Your right about the hdd and I got a hard drive used with 400 hours on it which is almost new. The power supply is new the guy im buying it from got the wrong one and sold it to me. This pc will be able to kick ass until I upgrade in a few years,with the gpu i would say high mid end pc, but when I upgrade it to 1070 its definitely high end. Thanks for the input, hope you learned a lil something about the i7 4770k

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[|Fever| SathKa]

The I7 4770k is a good cpu ist form the Legenbdery Devil Caynon seires wiht the i5 2500k that i own the best cpu seires that intel has ever made btw look at this this

Intel Core i7 4770K vs AMD Ryzen 5 Ryzen™ 5 1600X

its a nice site i look to see whats the diff between 2 cpus todasys pc markert is so much so big and if you are not up to date you have to do hours of gtaher infos what is up now so it can help you
The I7 4770k loss in all aspest vs the Ryzen 5 1600X The L2cache is 3 times higher than the I7 and the L3cache is 2 times bigger the only wek side is that he does not feature all the thinks Intel can or has thr ryzen cpus are by no means bad cpus form price perfromce standpoint thery are the best cpus you can get on the marked

but the best advice rule i can give you is the cpu the i74770k will run fine and last but your werak part is the gpu best rule i found is buy the latest model you can the nwest on thw mark cuz the cpu will allwasy stay longer and a gpu alters much faster than a cpu and is faster outdatet than a cpu form your 760 to a 960 as comperd that even wpuld make a houge diff in power for your system

but if you would it upgate to a one or just 2 Gerenration better cpu line willl not give you the same amout im diff than comaperd to a gpu and ypu wand to gaming so when go at 1060 bwlow that is shit just at the **60 that cards are made to be used at gaming the rest is shit.. 2gb as vram on a gpu it will bootloeg your system and make it imposble to play gamse or even to open a word doukoment

and don forgert that the diff prarts form diff brandts can greate a bootleg to like your ram mainborad dont has to be form the same brand but some diff brands can make trouble and make your pc performce worse

but i see your know what you doing and perosnal i would not buy any ssd below 500gb thery will get so fast full but i know that things cost so much to much if you ask me

-domi-

 

[|Fever| IceBear]

The I7 4770k is a good cpu ist form the Legenbdery Devil Caynon seires wiht the i5 2500k that i own the best cpu seires that intel has ever made btw look at this this

Intel Core i7 4770K vs AMD Ryzen 5 Ryzen[emoji769] 5 1600X

its a nice site i look to see whats the diff between 2 cpus todasys pc markert is so much so big and if you are not up to date you have to do hours of gtaher infos what is up now so it can help you
The I7 4770k loss in all aspest vs the Ryzen 5 1600X The L2cache is 3 times higher than the I7 and the L3cache is 2 times bigger the only wek side is that he does not feature all the thinks Intel can or has thr ryzen cpus are by no means bad cpus form price perfromce standpoint thery are the best cpus you can get on the marked

but the best advice rule i can give you is the cpu the i74770k will run fine and last but your werak part is the gpu best rule i found is buy the latest model you can the nwest on thw mark cuz the cpu will allwasy stay longer and a gpu alters much faster than a cpu and is faster outdatet than a cpu form your 760 to a 960 as comperd that even wpuld make a houge diff in power for your system

but if you would it upgate to a one or just 2 Gerenration better cpu line willl not give you the same amout im diff than comaperd to a gpu and ypu wand to gaming so when go at 1060 bwlow that is shit just at the **60 that cards are made to be used at gaming the rest is shit.. 2gb as vram on a gpu it will bootloeg your system and make it imposble to play gamse or even to open a word doukoment

and don forgert that the diff prarts form diff brandts can greate a bootleg to like your ram mainborad dont has to be form the same brand but some diff brands can make trouble and make your pc performce worse

but i see your know what you doing and perosnal i would not buy any ssd below 500gb thery will get so fast full but i know that things cost so much to much if you ask me

-domi-

Ive looked at comparisons and charts of the i7 4770k and 1600x for a day and the ryzen may have more cache but you have to keep in mind that games like frequencies and ipc more than cores and those tests are done at stock speeds and in games the 4770k pulls ahead, in some cases within a margin of error. Also the ryzen is a little faster in things like adobe premier pro but keep in mind the overclocked 4770k will out perform since most ryzen chips cant get past 4.2ghz while the 4770k can reach anywhere from 4.6 - 4.8. Thats also another reason the g3258 and g4560 are one of the best budget cpus simply due to high overclocking. But I have to agree with you on the ssd, I just kept the ssd when I got it last year on cyber monday for $33 and I put games on a 1tb hdd so it doesnt fill up the ssd. And Im just gonna wait for gpu prices to drop before buying new. A 980ti is up there with the 1070 so might buy one of them and then sell it for a 1070 or save for a 1080.

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[|Fever| SathKa]

well the ssd should be only for the sytem nothing else should be on it so your sytsem is clean and fast as pospble cuz as an exsample you want to play or at least to run forza on 4k it needs a ssd wiht 40-´60gb to run it you cant play it on 4k wihtout a ssd

i know that my cpu clock wiht Turbo mode is 4,9gh and its no even overcloekd i would it not even do it cuz if ist not more able to run gams i upgrade them overcloking compare to just bu a new one will get you noting just bad for your hardware

yep but somethink like a 960 should do fine untill you can go to your 1080ti or maybe you go a ati rx480 not the 580 one that comsue way more power and get way hoter but wiht same power as the rx480 is very cheap and should be fine and has power compaerd to a 1060 wiht still more vram than a 1060 but cheaper but its your choice what you prefernd

-domi-

 

[|Fever| IceBear]

I wont play at 4k until I get a 4k monitor so for now its 1080p.
The 960 is alright but the differnce between that and a 970 or 980 is pretty big and my 760 falls between a 1050 and 1050ti so im not in any hurry to upgrade lol

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[|Fever| Idolator]

@IceBear Honestly I disregard any Benchmarks done in Battlefield 1 and Overwatch. Those 2 games a stupidly well optimized and do not represent the majority of AAA games. I also wanted to note that a 20 FPS variance in a FPS game is not a very good thing, especially in a game like PUBG.

I will admit that CPUs are not my strong suit, and although I do understand your reasoning, there are issues with going for such an old generation of CPUs. For example the 4770k only allows you to use a max of 32 GB of RAM (not saying that's bad, for 1080p gaming that's more than enough). It only allows you to use DDR3-1600 RAM, which is significantly slower than DDR4. It only accepts Dual Channel Memory, only has 16 PCIe lanes, amongst other things. Plus the fact that you are locked into older motherboards that might not have support for newer features. These are things that I consider, even if I was making something that is budget. If I can future proof it while keeping it budget and high end, then I would, and I do not believe a chip that is 3 generations old is future proof, even if it overclocks well. There are already technologies that are coming out (especially for 4k content) that are locked to Kaby Lake processors and above.

If you plan to go into 4k be ready to not get anything over 60 fps without spending a lot of money. Currently I have 2 EVGA 1080 Classified in SLI, and even in a well optimised game like Overwatch (with ultra settings) I only get 125 FPS. In shitty optimised games (or games that do not fully support SLI) I get 90 FPS sometimes even less (The Witcher 3, at max settings ran at 70 FPS but frequently dipped under 50 in under certain circumstances).


@Mai-HiME The 1050Ti 4GB is a good card for 1080p gaming. If all you want is 60FPS I would not go over a 1060 6GB, a 1070 is already for 144 FPS 1080p or 60FPS 1440p. A 1080/1080Ti for 1080p is just way overkill, they were made for 144 FPS 1440p or 60 FPS 4k. If you do not want to go for the newer generation of GPUs, then a 980Ti/RX 480 are good for 1080p 60FPS. But like I said before, I prefer to future proof things, so I'd go with the newer generation of GPUs.


To be absolutely honest, if you are one of those people that are competitive in a game, I would stay away from 4k and just go for high FPS gaming (at least 144Hz/FPS). But if you are like me, and you just like to have a smooth experience with the most beautiful graphics you can get, well 4k looks fucking beautiful on a good IPS Monitor lol
And really all that matters is that you are sure the games you really want to play stay at 60 FPS.

 

[|Fever| IceBear]

@IceBear Honestly I disregard any Benchmarks done in Battlefield 1 and Overwatch. Those 2 games a stupidly well optimized and do not represent the majority of AAA games. I also wanted to note that a 20 FPS variance in a FPS game is not a very good thing, especially in a game like PUBG.

I will admit that CPUs are not my strong suit, and although I do understand your reasoning, there are issues with going for such an old generation of CPUs. For example the 4770k only allows you to use a max of 32 GB of RAM (not saying that's bad, for 1080p gaming that's more than enough). It only allows you to use DDR3-1600 RAM, which is significantly slower than DDR4. It only accepts Dual Channel Memory, only has 16 PCIe lanes, amongst other things. Plus the fact that you are locked into older motherboards that might not have support for newer features. These are things that I consider, even if I was making something that is budget. If I can future proof it while keeping it budget and high end, then I would, and I do not believe a chip that is 3 generations old is future proof, even if it overclocks well. There are already technologies that are coming out (especially for 4k content) that are locked to Kaby Lake processors and above.

If you plan to go into 4k be ready to not get anything over 60 fps without spending a lot of money. Currently I have 2 EVGA 1080 Classified in SLI, and even in a well optimised game like Overwatch (with ultra settings) I only get 125 FPS. In shitty optimised games (or games that do not fully support SLI) I get 90 FPS sometimes even less (The Witcher 3, at max settings ran at 70 FPS but frequently dipped under 50 in under certain circumstances).


@Mai-HiME The 1050Ti 4GB is a good card for 1080p gaming. If all you want is 60FPS I would not go over a 1060 6GB, a 1070 is already for 144 FPS 1080p or 60FPS 1440p. A 1080/1080Ti for 1080p is just way overkill, they were made for 144 FPS 1440p or 60 FPS 4k. If you do not want to go for the newer generation of GPUs, then a 980Ti/RX 480 are good for 1080p 60FPS. But like I said before, I prefer to future proof things, so I'd go with the newer generation of GPUs.


To be absolutely honest, if you are one of those people that are competitive in a game, I would stay away from 4k and just go for high FPS gaming (at least 144Hz/FPS). But if you are like me, and you just like to have a smooth experience with the most beautiful graphics you can get, well 4k looks fucking beautiful on a good IPS Monitor lol
And really all that matters is that you are sure the games you really want to play stay at 60 FPS.

the title says budget gaming pc... And for $380 I got a cpu and mobo that is STILL considered high end, 16 gb of ram, 1tb hdd, and a 520w modular power supply. I got the gtx 760 a month ago when my hd 7950 died and both are still great 1080p cards. In games like pubg 20 fps can mean the difference in playable and unplayable so its not because a game is optimized or unoptimized its other factors like ram or the frequencies. Battlefield 1 just eats up ram and overwatch doesn't. You can play overwatch with 4gb of ram no problem. You will struggle playing battlefield 1. At 4k the cpu isnt that big of a factor, A test was done with an i7 7700k and g4560 at 4k and the results are within the margin of error. When I do decide to put thousands into a setup I will go big. Four 4k monitors, i7 7700k water cooled with custom loop, 2 gtx 1080ti in sli, 3 ssds and 4 hard drives. I could honestly go on because Ive got like 20 different builds saved in pc part picker.

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